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Re: Guile emacs thread (again)
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Lluís |
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Re: Guile emacs thread (again) |
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Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:29:07 -0500 |
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Christopher Allan Webber writes:
[...]
> I found it very inspiring. It seems those things are fairly close.
> So this email is partly a:
> - What now? What's the chance of work towards guilemacs moving over to
> an official emacs git branch, and that port happening, anytime soon?
> - Is anyone running it? How's it going for you?
I just read the thread, and many different and entwined points have been raised,
which I think make the discussion harder to follow. Thus I would like to
summarize the issues I've read regarding Guile (feel free to reply with any
points you think I've missed or misinterpreted):
* Manpower / responsiveness
There's not much to say here. Whatever layers Emacs decides to use (if any),
there should be an appropriate response delay to handle issues.
* Direction / design
There could be design decisions conflicting between Emacs' and Guile's
desires. Such issues can only be resolved through mutual and good-hearted
understanding.
* Multi-language support
As someone said, using Guile does not necessarily mean exposing all these
languages in Emacs (i.e., just use Guile's lower-level compiler/VM layers).
* Development model / organization
It has been argued that Guile's development model does not give enough
stability assurances. I'm sure that's something that can be easily fixed if
Guile's developers slightly change their workflow to maintain a more stable
branch that Emacs (and other projects) can use.
* It's a GNU project
If that really counts for any purpose.
Thus I would say that the only critical point here is the first one
(manpower/responsiveness). To some extent, the second point could be a problem
too (direction/design), but targeting Emacs to the lower-level layers of Guile
could limit the impact of this factor.
Thanks,
Lluis
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