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Re: Emacs Lisp's future
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: Emacs Lisp's future |
Date: |
Wed, 08 Oct 2014 21:19:54 -0400 |
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Regading files:
We do ask, but only at buffer save time. Asking questions when
visiting a file is perceived as a nuisance, because our heuristics
that detect these cases are imperfect and tend to have high enough
false positive rate that annoys people.
Asking about invalid UTF-8 in a file could be a nuisance, but how much
of a nuisance depends on the details of what we do. Since this has
some security implications, it is worth a small amount of nuisance.
What exactly did we try before?
Meanwhile, in a separate message I wrote about non-file operations:
> We can set the defaults for those non-frile interfaces so as to reject
> invalid UTF-8 sequences. Then a program could specify to override the
> default and allow them.
That has been tried (not with UTF-8, but I don't think this matters),
and failed miserably.
I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I am talking about Lisp
functions to do conversions on text that does NOT come from files.
You seem to be talking about operations on files:
The experience taught us that Emacs users
definitely don't want Emacs to do _anything_ about the unmodified
parts of text, except copy it verbatim. Even the question we ask at
buffer-save time is sometimes reported as an annoyance.
It looks like you're grouping the two cases together,
while I am treating them separately.
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- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/10/08
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