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Re: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable)

From: Michael Welsh Duggan
Subject: Re: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:46:45 -0500
User-agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux)

address@hidden (Peder O. Klingenberg) writes:

> On Tue, Nov 25 2014 at 18:55, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>>      Yes, although I’d rather question the necessity of building
>>      Emacs ‘master’ on an LTS GNU/Linux system.  If the intent is to
>>      use the last decade’s versions of Libc and Coreutils, – why
>>      Emacs has to be newer than that?
> Because features.  My desktop machine runs Kubuntu 10.04 still, because
> it mostly does what I need without needing my attention all the time, it
> is a stable platform I can use to get work done.
> There is no conscious desire to run old software for nostalgias sake,
> more a lack of desire to upgrade willy-nilly with the associated
> breakage-fixing and retraining of muscle memory because some dimwits
> decided to reinvent everything badly.

Moreover, not everyone has complete control over their desktop.  At work
we have RHEL6.  I build Emacs for my own use.  I could build gnutls as
well, but my (recent) experience of that is hellish.  gnutls requires
nettle and gmp.  I build nettle, and then find out that gnutls doesn't
support the latest nettle.  So I grab an older nettle and build that.
Then it complains about HOGWEED.  Oh, libgmp needs to be installed
_before_ nettle is built to get HOGWEED.  I wish that had been
mentioned.  At this point, I give up for the day because I have to get
real work done.

Michael Welsh Duggan

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