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Re: More metaproblem

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: More metaproblem
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 09:47:44 +0200

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden>
> Cc: Jorgen Schaefer <address@hidden>,
>     address@hidden,
>     address@hidden,
>     address@hidden,
>     address@hidden
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:11:48 +0900
> In particular, the older "infrastructure" projects (the earlier GNU
> projects such as gcc, glibc, Emacs, the Linux kernel, the BSDs) today
> have a widespread reputation for hostility in general and
> unfriendliness to "diversity" in particular.  One respected developer
> in another community recently referred to GNU as a "cesspit" in the
> same breath as condemning GitHub for its hostile internal environment.
> I don't agree with this evaluation of Emacs or other GNU projects, but
> it's only fair that you know that it is indeed widespread.

I do know.

>  > In any case, it's no more hostile than Karl's attack.
> If "Karl's attack" refers to the text "It's precisely ... out there."
> quoted above, your retort was indeed more hostile.

No, it refers to the entire series of his posts on the related issues
here, lately and in the past.  You need to read them in their entirety
to get the feeling.

>  > And it's the truth.
> It's not obvious he was whining.

OK, if "whine" is the only hostile part, then I apologize for using
that word.  I should have replaced it with a less aggressive one, I

But that was just one word.  Remove it from the text, and then tell me
whether it is still hostile.

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