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From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: IDE
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:58:44 +0300

> From: "John Wiegley" <address@hidden>
> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:31:13 -0700
> To reiterate: I think Emacs becomes more of an IDE when it provides the
> backbone of an IDE, and not when it looks like one.

I don't think this will fly.  In effect, you are telling Emacs users
they will have to code their own IDE by using the infrastructure
(a.k.a. "backbone") that we provide.  If I were that user, I'd
immediately turn away and look elsewhere.

An analogy to that would be if, instead of Gnus, we'd provide an
infrastructure for a news- and mail-reader.

To me, an IDE is not a set of functionalities.  It's a coherent
application that provides an IDE-like look-and-feel, and all the
related functions already integrated and ready for me to be used.
That includes window-layout, btw, because configuring Emacs windows
for IDE-like behavior is an exceedingly complex task, one that's
impossible without good command of ELisp.  Not something I'd offer a
user whose only wish is to build a project in some language we

We cannot provide a toolbox and tell users make your own IDE from
these tools.  Integrating those tools together is a non-trivial task a
user should not be expected to perform.

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