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Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language |
Date: |
Sat, 17 Oct 2015 10:20:51 +0300 |
> From: address@hidden (Ludovic Courtès)
> Cc: address@hidden
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:51:26 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> skribis:
>
> > In any case, Emacs can never be satisfied with the current Guile
> > infrastructure for i18n. There are too many shortcomings, some of
> > them were mentioned here. Yes, Guile can be fixed to be better in
> > that area, but no one is working on that, AFAIK, and what's more
> > important, lead Guile developers don't even agree Guile should move in
> > that direction. (This especially puzzles me: to have a good example
> > before you and not follow it? Emacs learned what it has now the hard
> > way, have paid in blood, sweat and tears for that knowledge, and still
> > Guile developers think they "know better"? Present parties excluded,
> > of course.)
>
> My point is: Emacs can keep doing its own thing in that area.
Of course. But that takes away a serious chunk of arguments in favor
of Guile-based Emacs, for 2 reasons: (a) there will have to be a
non-trivial translation layer between the two, and (b) a very large
part of Emacs's C core will have to be left intact, instead of
removing it because Guile already does that.
> (And I would guess that neither C++, nor Lua, nor anything else would
> provide an i18n infrastructure that would satisfy Emacs out-of-the-box.)
Of course. But the Guile alternative is being brought up as being
much better than those others. If we leave the strings and i18n
alone, a large part of that argument goes away.
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, (continued)
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Przemysław Wojnowski, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/16
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/17
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/17
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Ludovic Courtès, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, David Kastrup, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/10/18
- Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language, Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer, 2015/10/18