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Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc?

From: John Wiegley
Subject: Re: Why does the tutorial talk about C-n/C-p etc?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 13:42:27 -0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin)

>>>>> Tim Cross <address@hidden> writes:

> Those who need/want a more powerful editor are unlikely to be put off by the
> tutorial. This doesn't mean we can't improve the tutorial. Only want to
> emphasise that there is no way to please everyone and we really need to
> focus on the 'real' audience, those who will benefit from what emacs can
> offer over things like nano, gedit, textedit etc.

I'm not sure what the practical way to move forward is in this discussion. If
someone trying Emacs doesn't intuitively know what the arrow keys will do --
such that they need them to be explained in a tutorial -- I doubt this is why
they will not go further with Emacs.

Meanwhile, there will be people who want to "get into Emacs", and to do so,
knowing that n/p is a part of an overall "movement gestalt" is important to
establish from the beginning.

Without seeing concrete proposals for changes to be made to the tutorial, I
don't see that there is much more to add.

John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
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