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Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole
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Karl Fogel |
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Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole |
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Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:15:42 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
> > Org Mode, like Emacs, requires a fair amount of investment on the
> > part of the user before the rewards arrive. Once the rewards
> > finally start arriving, the investment becomes worth it -- but
> > until until then, one makes the effort on faith.
>
>That may be true, but I stand by what I said.
>It is fine to have a structured editing mode, but it was
>bad design to make other facilities depend on it in this way.
>That makes a distortion in the overall design of Emacs.
>
>The other facilities should be separate things, even if they
>can work with the structured editing mode. Even if they ALWAYS
>use the structured editing mode, they should be separate
>as far as the user is concerned, not "part of" it.
Ah, sorry to make you [sort of] repeat yourself. Yes, this is a separate point
from the one I was addressing, and may well be true.
In general, I'm not sure how one would start extracting Org Mode features to
make them independent from Org Mode. I think each feature would have to be
handled on a case-by-case basis, because each of them depends on different
aspects of Org Mode -- though what most of the features have in common is that
they depend at least on the *syntax* of Org Mode files.
Overall, this could be viewed as one of them most massive piles of technical
debt in Emacs. Gulp.
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, (continued)
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Allen S. Rout, 2016/06/29
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eric Abrahamsen, 2016/06/17
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Richard Stallman, 2016/06/18
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Fabrice Popineau, 2016/06/18
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Robert Weiner, 2016/06/19
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Fabrice Popineau, 2016/06/19
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, raman, 2016/06/17
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Robert Weiner, 2016/06/16
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Karl Fogel, 2016/06/17
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Richard Stallman, 2016/06/18
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole,
Karl Fogel <=
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Tom, 2016/06/20
- Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole, Eric S Fraga, 2016/06/28
Re:Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole (Was: Call for testers for GNU Hyperbole 5.12, a large, useful Emacs package), tumashu, 2016/06/16