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Re: Emacs 25.0.04: Feature Request: Make called-interactively-p's argume

From: Andreas Röhler
Subject: Re: Emacs 25.0.04: Feature Request: Make called-interactively-p's argument optional
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 21:57:39 +0200
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On 03.07.2016 20:56, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Hello, Andreas.

On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 08:36:56PM +0200, Andreas Röhler wrote:

On 30.06.2016 17:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
From: Robert Weiner <address@hidden>
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 10:25:26 -0400
Cc: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>, emacs-devel <address@hidden>
It would be nice if John and Eli could just make some final
decision on the interactive-p issue and then put that one to rest,
whatever it is.
I have no opinion on the subject, except the general principle that
we shouldn't back up on past decisions unless they are truly
They are. This is another example from a couple of issues which went
wrong last years.  Code was made swollen up and complicated, simple
solutions rejected.
This is the sort of thing liable to make people unhappy with your

Hmm, that's not the intended thing.

   Please say exactly what has become turgid and complicated,
where simple solutions have been rejected.  Possibly those simple
solutions were too simple.

The moment interactive-p was deprecated against the form discussed here, argued detailed against it. IIRC also did Drew. It already took hours - in vain so far.

BTW a characteristic design-flaw beyond mentioned last days is around
use-region-p.  With use-empty-active-region or region-active-p it
hardly comes to an end.
What hardly comes to an end?  Are you talking about a loop in the code,
our discussion on emacs-devel, or a design flaw not coming to an end?

The redundancy should be visible by the symbols given.
Why to employ three symbols pointing at the same?

This also was discussed in extenso and a simple form replaced by a complicated one.

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