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Re: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added

From: Alain Schneble
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2016 12:43:21 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (windows-nt)

address@hidden (Phillip Lord) writes:

> I was never talking about the user manually using package.el to install
> additional packages.

Thanks for clarifying. I think I got that already earlier in this

> I was talking about using package.el as part of the build process to
> compile package, and then using package.el as part of startup to
> initialize packages in core.

Where the code used to drive the build process comes from is a separate
question and isn't really relevant for the concerns I have.  But the
final results (incl. directory layout) matters, IMHO.  And with the way
you propose to use package.el it matters because it brings in a new
directory layout just for the ELPA core packages.

>> If we stick to the Emacs directory/file layout, it is a unified layout
>> that gets presented to her. Where distictions between core libraries
>> and ELPA core packages aren't visible at that level. That would be
>> worth trying to achieve, I think. (And in fact is how the
>> directory/files organization looks like in the current release, IIUC.)
> AFAICT the layout of files inside the Emacs directory is, or should be,
> more or less irrelevant to the end user of Emacs. We do not need to
> maintain the current directory structure, to maintain the user
> experience.

I don't think it's irrelevant.  But that's me.  Having a unified
directory layout certainly is a good thing, I think.  And as long as not
all Emacs built-in libraries are ELPA core packages, I'm more towards
keeping the current structure than bringing in a new one side-by-side.
(And AFAIU, making all libraries ELPA core packages isn't even a
long-term goal...)


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