Le 8 septembre 2018 20:33:16 GMT+05:30, hw <address@hidden> a écrit :
Bingo <address@hidden> writes:
Can we consider changing defaults only for users who don't have any init file at all ?
Unexpectable behaviour of Emacs only because there is no ~/.emacs would
be confusing.
Which defaults is Emacs supposed to assume for settings that have not
been made in ~/.emacs because the user didn't need to change them before
the developers did?
This change may not solve many problems, due to two other features of emacs :
These are problems of other editors.
1. Emacs undo is frustrating for most new users. Correcting mistakes
with delete-selection-mode i.e. restore a selection that was deleted
due to a mistaken delete by typing/pasting , will need them to use
undo.
Every editor that doesn't understand Emacs` key bindings and doesn't
have its functions is frustrating (to use an euphemism).
Emacs` undo sucks when you need it more than once because you have to
press two keys for it. Using a prefix doesn't work to make this easier
because I have no way of knowing how many times I have to use undo
before I get back to where I want to. It is a really bad choice.
C-z can not easily be used for undo. Other editors should never have
used it for that anyway. I don't see why they would because it suspends
the process.
2. In their attempt to play with undo/redo, they might do C-y. Which
pastes in Emacs : but it is the key for redo in many "modern"
editors. This can cause more unintended deletions in
delete-selection-mode.
This is another example of how delete-selection-mode supports making
mistakes. Without it, C-y seems fine. Shift+Insert works only in X
frames.
Now imagine you change the key binding for undo and for yank when there
is no ~/.emacs to make things easier for beginners. The beginner uses
customize to change colours and to set a font and saves this settings.
Suddenly undo and yank --- and perhaps lots of other things --- "don't
work" anymore because the key bindings have changed. Does that make
things easier for beginners --- or more difficult?