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Re: "Why is emacs so square?"

From: 조성빈
Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?"
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 02:57:17 +0900

2020. 4. 25. 오전 1:39, ndame <address@hidden> 작성:

>> Maybe some improvements to the welcome screen. A better tutorial (which 
>> showcases advanced features, not just the "alien" part of Emacs) and/or some 
>> guides.
> If the cursor keys work out of the box then the tutorial should
> begin with features which can be used without learning new cursor keys,
> demonstrating something which emacs does well or better than other
> tools.

Yeah, Emacs should not position it as an obscure editor that only gurus use. 

> Is there such a thing? Or does learning emacs mostly pay off
> for the advanced user? I can't think of a feature right know where
> emacs shines for the casual user.

Org mode, magit, helm comes to my mind.
Programmability should also be mentioned — one should show a step-by-step 
tutorial that adds a new interactive function invokable by a keybinding.

> C-v and stuff are advanced topics IMO which pay off mostly in the long
> run, not at the beginning, they could be shown in an advanced section
> of the tutorial later.
> And for keybindings there is no real need to switch to emacs, because,
> for example, vscode can also have emacs keys:
> https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=tuttieee.emacs-mcx
> So some feature should be found which can be shown for the casual user at the 
> beginning
> of the tutorial which may convince the user that emacs is worth the effort.
> IMO  starting with C-v, etc. keys just puts off must users who casually try 
> emacs.

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