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Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?


From: jao
Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 04:58:18 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

On Tue, May 12 2020, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>> Just wanted to say, as someone who uses Emacs for literally everthing
>> except visiting a few web pages, that these two projects are exactly the
>> ones i'd need more.  In case someone's counting :)
>
> For the "browser" part, have you tried the `xwidget` approach to the
> problem?

A few years ago: it was then in a very early stage and tended to kill
emacs.  And after a while i got the impression that it got out of steam
and further development stopped: but maybe that's not so?

> How 'bout EAF (emacs-application-framework)?

I haven't used it (yet), but its problem (IIUC) in my case is that it
wants to be my window manager (i'm a very happy user of exwm), pdf
viewer (ditto with pdf-tools), and so on, so it feels a bit too invasive
(i guess i also don't like the looks of qt apps, but that's just
prejudice).  Again, i might be wrong and the EAF be modular enough for
using only its browser.

I guess what i'd really like about a fully integrated browser would be
its being leaner than the webkit or quantum behemoths and fully
scriptable in elisp: if all we have is a widget which essentially embeds
one of those browsers and i have to access it using python, well,
there's not much difference with having a firefox process running in an
exwm workspace, as i do now, together with something like trydactil.

Something a bit better with graphical layout than emacs-w3m, which i
quite like already, would be almost enough for me, really.  But this is
most probably not a very reasonable expectation: people will want all
the HTML5 bells and wishes, i suppose...

Cheers,
jao
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