RE: Changes for emacs 28

[Ihor Radchenko]

> There's always room for improvement.  And indeed,
> the menus have improved in this way over time, to
> be more accommodating to new users.
>
> Menus are an important way to discover features
> and, yes, key bindings.  They can be a gateway to
> more "emacsy" behavior.

Would it make sense to re-evaluate Xah Lee's suggestions about menu?
http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html

Best,
Ihor

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > Doesn't menu File > Open File do what you request,
>> > by default?  Likewise, other file operations, such
>> > as File > Insert File, File > Save As, and File >
>> > Open Directory.
>> 
>> Hmm. You are right. I thought that the problem was with Emacs defaults,
>> but it seems to be a problem with helm, which I asked to install at the
>> very beginning - it appears to override the file dialogue.
>
> Thanks for confirming.
>
> In several cases, though it may not be systematic,
> Emacs default behavior tries to present, by way of
> menus, something closer to what new users might be
> used to.  Another example is Edit > Cut|Copy|Paste.
>
> CUA-mode is about keyboard-key (not menu) behavior.
> And in general Emacs default key bindings are
> closer to what most Emacs users use, as opposed to
> what new users might be used to.
>
> There's always room for improvement.  And indeed,
> the menus have improved in this way over time, to
> be more accommodating to new users.
>
> Menus are an important way to discover features
> and, yes, key bindings.  They can be a gateway to
> more "emacsy" behavior.
> ____
>
> In terms of discovering with menus, and at the
> same time seeing the power/utility of keyboard
> key bindings (completion, in particular), there
> is library La Carte.
>
> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/LaCarte
>
> And vanilla Emacs has `tmm-menubar' (M-`).