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Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars
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Philip K. |
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Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars |
Date: |
Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:48:19 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) |
Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
>>>> and which may well be discouraging people from using Emacs
>>>> at all (because it looks useless and out of touch).
>>>
>>> We have no data to support that.
>>
>> I did, very carefully, not claim that we do.
>
> At some point on the past it was decided that having a toolbar was a
> good thing. Switching it off just because a very poorly executed survey
> barely resembles a democratic vote on its utility, without revisiting
> the original motivation, is questionable.
>
> Really, this kind of decissions should be based on guidance by UI
> experts. Sadly, it seems that we have none onboard, same as every other
> Free or Open Source projects around (and even most propietary ones).
> They are very scarce.
Maybe I'm too cynical, but can a non-Emacs UI expert really help with
something as other-worldly as Emacs? And I don't even mean this in an
elitist way, just that it has so many conventions and usage-patterns
from parallel UI traditions, that it might seem easier to just start all
over (which I'm not advocating for).
> BTW, I disable the toolbar (and the menu) on my config.
--
Philip K.
- dvorak users (was: Emacs Survey: Toolbars), (continued)
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Eric S Fraga, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Eric S Fraga, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Óscar Fuentes, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Óscar Fuentes, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Christopher Dimech, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars,
Philip K. <=
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- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Christopher Dimech, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Christopher Dimech, 2020/12/15
- Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Richard Stallman, 2020/12/16
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Jean Louis, 2020/12/15
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Adrien Brochard, 2020/12/19
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Christopher Dimech, 2020/12/19
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Dmitry Gutov, 2020/12/20
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Christopher Dimech, 2020/12/20
Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars, Gregory Heytings, 2020/12/22