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Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help'


From: Gregory Heytings
Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help'
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 23:26:48 +0000


I would add "C-s to search, " after "to scroll,".

IMO that command is less useful now that this screen is not a wall of text, so I'd rather avoid that verbosity.


The text, even with sections and a nicer formatting, is still rather long, and IMO isearch is very useful there. I remember that I found the fact that there was no way to search that buffer rather frustrating when I started using Emacs, it just kept disappearing no matter what I did.

Moreover with just "(Type SPC ... or q to exit.)" it looks like these are the only options, where in fact a fourth key (and AFAIK only a fourth key) is defined.

I find the last section name "Language Help" unclear.

This is the same name as the section `(emacs) Language Help'.

FWIW, I personally find it's clear from context, but if you have an equally short alternative, I'm all ears. (And perhaps we should then also update the Info manual accordingly.)


Equally short will be difficult ;-) The section title of the Emacs manual is "Help for International Language Support", I would suggest "International Languages Help" or "Help for International Languages".

Why did you put a blank line between where-is and apropos-command?

The intention is to divide this into two subgroups.


Okay, then I suggest dividing other sections into subgroups, to make the blocks less intimidating:

pPel / tgs.

C-a C-e C-f C-n / C-d C-m C-p C-t / C-c C-o C-w



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