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Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help'
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' |
Date: |
Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:38:00 +0300 |
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:20:00 +0300
>
> On 25.04.2021 10:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >>> Perhaps the easiest fix would be to handle Delete same as Backspace here.
> >> Yes, that could alleviate the problem in this particular case.
> > Please don't, that would be a horribly wrong change.
>
> I have described an obvious problem: Emacs says press DEL to scroll, the
> user presses Del on their keyboard, and Emacs exits instead.
I'm not opposed to finding a solution, I just don't think blindly
replacing each DEL with Backspace is a good solution.
We could mention Backspace in the text there, or we could add
PgUp/PgDn, for example
> All that in a Help interface, which is supposed to help newbies. Not
> grizzled veterans.
You may be surprised to learn that I use that command quite often.
And in any case, we are not going to make veterans, grizzled or not,
unlearn what they have learned long ago, I hope.
> It's a real problem, if you want people to actually use this feature.
>
> > Like making C-f move backwards.
>
> If C-f never did anything in a certain interface, and doing this would
> help usability, why not.
But DEL does do something. And so does Delete.
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', (continued)
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/24
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/24
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/24
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/25
- RE: [External] : Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Drew Adams, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help',
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Eli Zaretskii, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/25
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/30
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/30
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Monnier, 2021/04/30
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Dmitry Gutov, 2021/04/30
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Stefan Kangas, 2021/04/30
- Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help', Gregory Heytings, 2021/04/25