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Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help'


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help'
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:38:00 +0300

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 13:20:00 +0300
> 
> On 25.04.2021 10:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >>> Perhaps the easiest fix would be to handle Delete same as Backspace here.
> >> Yes, that could alleviate the problem in this particular case.
> > Please don't, that would be a horribly wrong change. 
> 
> I have described an obvious problem: Emacs says press DEL to scroll, the 
> user presses Del on their keyboard, and Emacs exits instead.

I'm not opposed to finding a solution, I just don't think blindly
replacing each DEL with Backspace is a good solution.

We could mention Backspace in the text there, or we could add
PgUp/PgDn, for example

> All that in a Help interface, which is supposed to help newbies. Not 
> grizzled veterans.

You may be surprised to learn that I use that command quite often.

And in any case, we are not going to make veterans, grizzled or not,
unlearn what they have learned long ago, I hope.

> It's a real problem, if you want people to actually use this feature.
> 
>  > Like making C-f move backwards.
> 
> If C-f never did anything in a certain interface, and doing this would 
> help usability, why not.

But DEL does do something.  And so does Delete.




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