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Re: Moving kbd to subr.el

From: Corwin Brust
Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 13:10:03 -0500

Hi Emacs devs!

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 08:24 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> We can move `kbd' to subr.el as is, for short-term convenience, and we
> can leave it there permanently if that's useful.  But that doesn't
> mean we have to adopt `kbd' syntax as our permanent new key binding
> syntax.
> Let's not rush to decide that new syntax!

We're not rushing -- `describe-key' has been around for quite a while,
and that's the syntax we're using.

Apropos rushing..

AFAIK bind-keys (from use-package) is fairly stable.  Discussion of it in this thread fell by the wayside, I think.  Is there a reason for that I may have missed?  (I'm traveling these last few days and may well be poorly following the lists from my mobile.)

Are there design goals at stake here that bind-keys leaves aside?  And, assuming there, would someone be so kind as to enumerate the design goals for a new keyboard binding layer?

Can compatibility with bind-keys be considered as (at least) nice to have in such a list?

My sense is that quite a number of people use it (via use-package).  In fact, I would tend to assume use-package's bind-key is the most popular/well-used not-yet-supported-in-core means of setting up complex user defined key-bindings.  

If these (data-free) assertions are true, supporting (whether or not actually using) bind-key may be preferable to 'socializing' the rationale for different heuristics.

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