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Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

From: Tim Cross
Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2022 14:25:14 +1000
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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

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>   > > Have we tried patching GTK to add workarounds -- for instance,
>   > > defining an "exit function" hook to call instead of `_exit'?
>   > > We could distribute such patches, and they might accept the patches.
>   > They insist that it is unsafe to call anything except for _exit, because
>   > it is not safe to save files after the display server goes down.
> There are various ways users can make such modifications.
> We can add those to the list of possible options to compare.
> This is for GTK 3, right?
> One pwrtinent question is, how bad would the problems of GTK 3 be if
> we imagine a few of them have been fided this way?  Would they be bad
> enough that we would want to reject GTK 3 over them anyway?
> There is a modified version of GNOME 2, which I suppose includes GTK
> 2.  It is called Maté.  (The accent on "ë is incorrect Spanish, but it
> is correct English.)  It is no longer maintained, but it is probably a
> better starting point than GNOME 2 itself.  I use it, because it is
> included in Trisquel.  I presume it contains a version of GTK 2.
> If newer versions of GTK are lousy, and the other options also have
> bad problems, maybe this is the best.

I think mate is still maintained. Both Ubuntu and Fedora have current
versions of their distribution which is based on it. I think cinnamon is
also based on GTK2?

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