Re: [ELPA] new package: tramp-docker

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  >   But you also don't need to
  > use the site itself, the "docker"/"podman" commands take care of
  > fetching everything you need, just like "apt-get" would.

apt-get fetches lists of packages from a web site, and then fetched
the packages themselves from it too.  Is that what the `docker' and
`podman' commands do?  It looks that way.  If so, then running them
is a way of using the respective sites, not an alternative to doing so.

Accessing the site that way has an advantage: if `docker' and `podman'
are free programs, and assuming they don't silently run any software
fetched from the site, this avoids the danger that browsing the site
would run nonfree JS code.

So far, so much the better.  But that leaves this problem:

  > > Is there an easy way you can ensure that _all_ the programs you put
  > > into a new container are free?  Is there an easy way to verify that
  > > the contents of a container are free?

  > Without an index that would only host free software, I don't see how
  > this would currently be possible.

That's what I expected.  Alas, the natural consequence is that
building containers implies a risk of including nonfree software.  The
more packages, the more risk.

As long as that is the case, we should warn people off of distributing
containers.

GNU Emacs is not the place to publish that general point, but where we
mention support for containers, let's include this.

  Containers pose problems for software freedom.  If you are careful,
  you can make and then use a container with only free packages.  But
  when you make a container with more than a few packages, there is
  nothing to help you make sure each and every one is free/libre, and
  no easy way to verify this for an existing container.  We recommend
  staying away from containers made by others unless they explicitly
  commit to carefully ensure the whole contents are free/libre.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)