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Re: feature/package-vc has been merged

From: Philip Kaludercic
Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 20:45:40 +0000

Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de> writes:

>>>>> For example Borg only works because of magit, epkg is almost useles
>>>>> without Borg.
>>>> Just to clarify, I have never used Borg, straight, elpacaa, etc. so I
>>>> don't know how they work, how they are used or what terminology they
>>>> use.  I have peeked into their source code in the past, but none of that
>>>> was related to the development of package-vc.
>>> That's to bad I think it very helpful to improve on such packages or
>>> even just adapt them instead of reinventing them.
>> The point of package-vc.el is to have something that explicitly extends
>> package.el and works in the core, in active collaboration with ELPA.
>> That is why the implementation is far simpler than what others have to
>> do, because they are fighting an up hill battle outside of the core.
> There might be reasons for that..
> Quite often the core packages aren't as good or just to
> complicated/convoluted with legacy features.

My experience has been quite the opposite -- I wouldn't be a
more-or-less-regular contributor if that weren't my impression.  Core
packages are usually developed by people with a good sense of what makes
Emacs "Emacs".

Most of the time the complexity you speak of has an explanation, even if
that explanation is only due to the responsibilities of having a package
in core.

> Or in case of borg compared to package-vc deeper integration into git or
> other different features like building packages in a second instance
> with just borg and the package.

Right, that is an advantage that Borg has by /committing/ to Git,
instead of going through VC and avoiding a strict dependency on one
specific VCS.

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