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Re: cl-lib warnings


From: Sean Whitton
Subject: Re: cl-lib warnings
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 22:40:24 -0700
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)

Hello,

On Wed 21 Dec 2022 at 03:50PM +01, Juanma Barranquero wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 3:22 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>  
>> Our policy and practice was since long ago that any package which is
>> always or almost always loaded at startup without any user say-so,
>> should be preloaded, since not doing that makes very little sense.
>   
> We don't have precise metrics for "always or almost always loaded at startup",
> I think.
>
> But cl-lib is unconditionally required by 191 files under lisp/, right
> now.  Including things like desktop, help-fns, help-mode, kmacro,
> imenu, tab-line and package, among many others.  And of course vc,
> Calc and Org. And use-package, which will perhaps become the de facto
> way to customize their .emacs for many people.

Eli's the only person who's expressed concern about preloading cl-lib,
but I don't believe he's responded to Juanma's statistics here.

Eli, what do you think about this argument that cl-lib meets the
criteria you stated?

-- 
Sean Whitton



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