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Re: Proposal to add Popper to ELPA


From: Karthik Chikmagalur
Subject: Re: Proposal to add Popper to ELPA
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:09:59 -0700

>>>> What is Popper?
>>>>
>>>> Short for "Popup Buffer", 
>>>
>>> FWIW I don't think I would have understood this.  Perhaps it is just me,
>>> but despite fearing a general discussion about package names, do you
>>> think renaming the package to something like "popup-buffers" would be
>>> imaginable.  If not, it is fine, just wanted to bring it up /briefly/.
>>
>> I took my cue for the name `popper' from Emacs' built-in `winner-mode'.
>> At 16K+ downloads, Popper is a reasonably well known package and I think
>> renaming it now will create more confusion than clarity.
>
> For the record, I supposed you are referring to MELPA?

Yes, that number is from https://melpa.org/#/popper.

>> The byline for the package is "Summon and dismiss buffers as popups",
>> which shows up in package listings and should help discoverability.
>
> Of course, which is why I am not insisting on anything, I just wanted to
> point out that people like me with slight dyslexia have difficulties
> reading and remembering names like these.  It was actually just
> yesterday that I noticed the name is not "poppler".

I see.

>>>> There are other features, and a few video demos at the link.
>>>
>>> Is the video mirrored on some other platform as well?
>>
>> It's not.  Do you have a suggestion for where you'd like the videos to
>> be available?  I can make that happen.
>
> I guess any peertube instance should be OK:
> https://joinpeertube.org/publish-videos.  I haven't taken a look at the
> video, but as long as there is nothing mentioned in the video that is
> not mentioned elsewhere, everything should be fine.  While some people
> prefer it, others find videos to be a information-sparse format.

There is one 10+ min extended demo video on Youtube -- this is now quite
out of date and only useful to get a general overview.  Additionally
there are a few short 5-10 second gifs on the Github page that
illustrate specific features.  These only make sense in the context of
the README, so uploading them individually to peertube won't help
either.

I like the 5-10 second gifs as accompaniments to text, but am not a
fan of extended video demos either since they're not greppable.

I've applied the changes you suggested, and improved the documentation
in a couple of other places.

Karthik



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