Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:14:52 +0200
> 
> Richard Stallman wrote:
> 
> >> 226 files, or 14%, use cl-lib at run time.
> >
> > These cases may be more or less problematical, but not
> > necessarily equally so.
> >
> > Which of those files are usually loaded when you start Emacs
> > with no arguments? Those we should certainly fix.
> 
> I don't know, but at least one since you get the cl-lib stuff
> even at 'emacs -Q'.

That is not true, since in "emacs -Q" I get this:

  (featurep 'cl-lib) => nil

both in GUI and TTY (i.e. -nw) sessions.

So if cl-lib is loaded at startup, Emacs does that because of some
user customizations, not by default.