Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de>
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 03:52:29 +0300
> 
> >From my point of view in some way it does sound like that some are
> against it for ideological reasons rather than technical.

I gave specific technical reasons for why we are trying to avoid
preloading cl-lib.

> Ideological vs practicism. 

It isn't.  Again, I explained the policy.  That Emanuel disregards
what I said and keeps claiming it's ideology or that people prefer
cl-lib etc. is not relevant to the actual issue at hand, nor to
specific questions Richard asked (and I answered).  This is purely a
technical, practical issue of interest to Emacs maintainers, it has no
bearing on how people write their own code or Emacs extensions they
submit to Emacs.

Of course, if cl-lib is used without any justification, patch review
comments will usually point that out, but in that case cl-lib is not
different from any other package, because Lisp code should not
gratuitously load stuff it can do without.  IOW, this is a matter of
writing clean code, not of preferring or not preferring cl-lib.