Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove

[Po Lu]

Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:

> There is no "waste". We've gone over this at length. People who want
> to bind these keys can bind them still. Nobody is hurt by default
> bindings being present, and all the arguments I've seen against these
> bindings are also arguments against having default bindings at all.

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> There's no need to augment the binding function with a new
> parameter. Anyone who can use the new parameter can just bind the keys
> directly. The point is that out of the box Emacs should be useful and
> useable, that the lack of default bindings for windmove makes it less
> so, and that there's little downside to adding these bindings.

"I was not convinced by you, and therefore you must all agree with ME."

> Because it's useful to navigate windows positionally as well as
> temporally. Other-window often has unpredictable effects and
> navigating with windmove DWIM.

Most users will for this purpose use the mouse, if there is really such
a number of windows that navigating with other-window is impractical.

I'm disposed to say that this situation seldom appears in practice, or
we should have received proposals to grant windmove default keybindings
much earlier.  And don't let's be given a lecture as to the inherent
incompatibility of the mouse with Emacs's ethos or some such.