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Re: MPS and pgtk
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: MPS and pgtk |
Date: |
Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:36:43 +0300 |
> From: Arsen Arsenović <arsen@aarsen.me>
> Cc: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com,
> avityazev@disroot.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:19:28 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> So, IMHO the pgtk support may be prioritized as it is the only way we
> >> support Wayland natively.
> >>
> >> Not sure if there are plans or alternatives under consideration to
> >> change/improve pgtk, but if igc becomes an issue for it... we may
> >> rethink if we really want it looking to the future?
> >
> > Given the sorry state of Wayland and GTK support of what Emacs needs,
> > from my POV the PGTK configuration becomes less and less relevant to
> > Emacs. I'm aware that the world moves in the opposite direction, but
> > unless we get some help from Wayland/GTK developers, or,
> > alternatively, find ways to work around those limitations (unlikely,
> > IMNSHO), there's nothing we can do about this, and nothing we could
> > gain by "rethinking". If you care about these platforms, start
> > lobbying the respective development teams to cater more for Emacs and
> > its needs.
>
> I am curious about what these are, as I am quite interested in the
> further development of Wayland.
Search our etc/PROBLEMS file for "pgtk", and you will see many of
them. Others are in the various bug reports, so searching debbugs for
PGTK might uncover them.
> WRT GTK, I've considered Qt (but have not seen yet whether it has the
> same restrictions) and multiprocessing the UI, but have not had time to
> look into those options yet. Has anyone lese considered Qt?
Yes, it's in the archives. For starters, it's a C++ toolkit, but
AFAIR there were other problems as well.
- Re: MPS and pgtk, (continued)
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/06/26
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Helmut Eller, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Gerd Möllmann, 2024/06/26
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Po Lu, 2024/06/27
- Re: MPS and pgtk, Arsen Arsenović, 2024/06/27
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- Re: MPS and pgtk, Po Lu, 2024/06/27