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Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Ema
From: |
Juri Linkov |
Subject: |
Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs] |
Date: |
Sat, 21 Sep 2024 20:55:15 +0300 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) |
>> > As to input method using modifier keys, it might lead to conflicts with
>> > default key bindings for some commands.
>>
>> Yes, when I write in Greek I do not have access to emacs keybindings
>> (C-b etc).
>
> Yes, this is somewhat annoying, but I haven't yet a good idea on how
> to cope with that.
>
> I like to change the keyboard layout at the X level, since then I can
> also type in Greek into a terminal or into a (gasp!) browser, and the
> keyboard layout stays consistent.
>
> But Emacs (rightfully) balks at me that CTRL-β is a funny control sequence.
>
> Surprisingly, some applications seem to magically "cope" in some way. In
> Firefox, CTRL-τ opens a new tab (as CTRL-t would do under a Latin layout).
> But this doesn't really count: Firefox has just a few useful keybindings
> and the whole model actually discourages using them, while Emacs has
> a very rich set of bindings which is at the core of its user interaction.
>
> Given the very dense keybindings in Emacs, this seems like a daunting
> task: I even guess it has some ugly fuzzy borders: just blindly going
> by "places" in the keyboard brings up issues like CTRL-Z and CTRL-Y
> being switched for German layouts, and Germans would expect those bindings
> to "move" with the key labels instead of following "geometry". Likewise
> for French ("A" "Z" where usually "Q" and "W" are, etc).
This is bug#43830. Patches welcome.
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, (continued)
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Robert Pluim, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Thanos Apollo, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Emanuel Berg, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Thanos Apollo, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/09/21
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Emanuel Berg, 2024/09/21
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Max Nikulin, 2024/09/20
- Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Thanos Apollo, 2024/09/20
- Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], tomas, 2024/09/21
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs],
Juri Linkov <=
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], tomas, 2024/09/22
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], Max Nikulin, 2024/09/22
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], tomas, 2024/09/23
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], Max Nikulin, 2024/09/24
- Re: Keybindings and changing keyboard layout [was: Writting Greek in Emacs], tomas, 2024/09/24
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/09/21
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Max Nikulin, 2024/09/23
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Thanos Apollo, 2024/09/23
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Max Nikulin, 2024/09/24
Re: Writting Greek in Emacs, Thanos Apollo, 2024/09/24