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Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emac
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Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development] |
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Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:56:31 +0200 |
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "adam@alphapapa.net" <adam@alphapapa.net>,
> "emacs-devel@gnu.org"
> <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:22:23 +0000
>
> > > I think the crucial question was _where_ this discussion took place.
> > > It was in the bug reporting list, not emacs-devel.
> > >
> > > I have complained before that the practice of discussing a feature
> > > change on the bug list caused feature change ideas not to be
> > > recognized as such. People should help notify all of us
> > > that we are discussing a feature change.
> >
> > When such discussions happen on the bug list, we generally try to add
> > to the discussion people who might be relevant or whose opinions we
> > want to hear. In other cases, someone insists to move the discussion
> > to emacs-devel.
> >
> > Of course, mistakes can and do happen. But the understanding that
> > some issues need broader discussions does exist, and there's no
> > intentional avoidance of that for some covert reasons.
> >
> > Please also keep in mind that a person interested in some subject
> > could be off-line for some reason, not reading any of the Emacs lists,
> > when the discussion happens. So even making sure all such discussions
> > happen on emacs-devel is not a guarantee that everyone who should be
> > involved will be. (I do agree that emacs-devel is a better place for
> > discussing important changes, I'm just saying it is not a panacea.)
>
> Good to hear. IMO it does happen too often that
> something that could benefit from discussion on -
> or at least exposure to - emacs-devel stays on
> the bug list.
How often is "too often"? Do you have some quantitative data about
the percentage of such discussions that happen on the bug tracker?
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, (continued)
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- My resignation from Emacs development, Christopher Dimech, 2024/11/26
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Adam Porter, 2024/11/26
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Daniel Radetsky, 2024/11/27
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Christopher Dimech, 2024/11/27
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Richard Stallman, 2024/11/29
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/11/30
- Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development], Drew Adams, 2024/11/30
- Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development],
Eli Zaretskii <=
- RE: [External] : Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development], Drew Adams, 2024/11/30
- Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development], Drew Adams, 2024/11/30
- Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development], Eli Zaretskii, 2024/11/30
- RE: [External] : Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was My resignation from Emacs development], Drew Adams, 2024/11/30
- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Adam Porter, 2024/11/26
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- Re: My resignation from Emacs development, Alan Mackenzie, 2024/11/22
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