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Re: [Orgmode] counter-intuitive key bindings

From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] counter-intuitive key bindings
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:57:08 +0200

On Jul 28, 2007, at 14:52, Adam Spiers wrote:

On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 12:17:06PM +0100, Leo wrote:
(info "(org)Multiple sets in one file")
| `C-S-<right>'
| `C-S-<left>'
|      These keys jump from one TODO subset to the next.  In the above
|      example, `C-S-<right>' would jump from `TODO' or `DONE' to
|      `REPORT', and any of the words in the second row to `CANCELED'.

These key bindings are to move from one set of the TODO items to
another, which intuitively are a vertical motion. See this configure:

|      (setq org-todo-keywords
|            '((sequence "TODO" "|" "DONE")
|              (sequence "REPORT" "BUG" "KNOWNCAUSE" "|" "FIXED")
|              (sequence "|" "CANCELED")))

I would propose to change these key bindings to:


Agreed, this is more logical, although the modified cursor key
bindings are always going to be contended.  Personally I have a
"global" standard set of key bindings for outline navigation and
editing which applies across several modes: folding-mode, org-mode,
outline-minor-mode (and allout), orgstruct-mode.  Having to remember
different bindings for how to hide/reveal/zoom to a subtree in each
mode is a nightmare.  I would love to see some standardization here
with more mode authors talking to each other.

On a related topic, if I have S-{left,right} on my org-disputed-keys
list, this breaks using them for changing a timestamp by one-day
increments, even though I don't consider that a clashing binding.  I
guess I am arguing that this is a minor bug with `org-key' being too
indiscriminate in when it filters bindings.

Why do you then have these keys on your list?  What are you
using them for?  How is org-mode supposed to know in what
situations you don't what org-mode to use them?

- Carsten

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