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Re: [Orgmode] How you can help
Re: [Orgmode] How you can help
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:42:41 +0530
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Hi Org users,
> I need to get control over the time I spent on developing
> Org-mode. Recently, I have again worked too hard on it, spending
> more time than I should, in order to get 6.9 and 6.10 out and to
> seize the chance to get the best possible version into Emacs
> However, this is getting out of control, and I am now putting
> myself a hard limit of 1 hour per day, clocked by Org-mode, which
> will clearly cut in on my development speed and posting rate.
> Here is how you can help me to make the most of that one hour.
> 1. If you report a bug, please try to do as much work as you can
> yourself. Before you send it, think if you have collected all
> the information you can. There are great examples of good bug
> reports on the list already. The best bug reports are, of
> course, those that are accompanied by a patch.
> 2. If you are reading the list and see bug reports, consider
> putting in 10 minutes, trying to reproduce this problem
> yourself, and maybe adding information that might be useful
> for me to track down that bug. Again, this is already
> happening, I am only trying to encourage this type of
> 3. I have recently spent much time on fixing bugs in parts of Org
> that I did not write myself, so this is taking much more time
> than usually. If you know Emacs Lisp, and I know there are a
> number of excellent Lisp programmers on this group, consider
> "adopting" one of the following subsystems. By "adoption", I
> mean that you make it your mission to deeply understand this
> part of Org, so that *you* will be in the position to fix
> bugs, taking that off my shoulders.
> - org-publish.el. I think the biggest bugs are out now, but I
> am sure this system can be improved quite a bit. If you are
> that Lisp programmer trying to take up this task, consider
> teaming up with Sebastian Rose who is a great guy, has quite
> some understanding of that system and good ideas about it,
> but just is not enough of a Lisp programmer to really take
> that on.
> - org-export-latex.el. This is a tough one because you need
> to know both LaTeX and Lisp. And the code is complex, in
> part because Org-mode allows to write LaTeX is a relatively
> lazy way. Bastien has done a great great job capturing this
> into an exporter. However, there are still problems and
> bugs, some came up recently on the list. And Bastien
> currently does not have the time to contribute consistently.
> As a result, I have started to fix some bugs, but this is
> really eating too much of my time. This subsystem can also
> use feature additions, for example better handling of image
> insertion, maybe with captions. I have ideas about this, so
> talk to me if you want to help out.
> 4. Try to answer as many messages on the mailing list as you can.
> I have been trying hard to make sure that each and every
> reasonable question on the list (and this is really the only
> kind we get in this amazing community) will be answered.
> Doing this still takes a significant fraction of my Org-mode
> development time. I will clearly spend less time on this in
> the future, in this way also giving others more time to
> answer. Again, there are already quite a few people who
> regularly *answer* questions, and all I am trying to do here
> is encouraging this activity.
> 5. Help developing the Org-mode FAQ by adding useful information
> to it yourself. All you need to do is to get acces to Worg,
> which will help getting to know git in the process. Worg is
> meant to be user edited, so please go wild and add information
> and links at will.
> Thanks to you all, for your understanding and help.
It is quite a challenge to try out and understand numerous features
and facilities already in Org and the pace at which the new changes
were coming was unreal and super-human. The backlog of things I
wanted to try, understand and absorb in my workflow was consistently
increasing. This is not a complaint; I am having so much fun. *BUT*
I do not want my favourite developer of my favourite package in my
favourite editor to burn out. Please do take it easy.
Unfortunately, I can not help with #3 (adopting a subsystem) since I
am Lisp-challenged but with rest I will.
Sincere thanks for all your time, effort and sacrifices.