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## Re: [Orgmode] Exporting for word processors

 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Exporting for word processors Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:37:03 +0100

@Carsten.

Thanks for pointing that variable out.  I'll experiment.  I was encouraged by the fact that even when italics didn't work the way I wanted, the /slashes/ were always still intact.  I figured if I got desperate, I could always do a second pass on an export hook, but I'll mess with the variable.  How nice that it's flexible.

@ Matthew:

Thanks for your setup.  I'll be glad to poke around with it.

@ Sebastian:

Matthew's setup is considerably more refined than mine, but so far I've had good sucess with ebib, another BibTeX manager for Emacs.  It lets you customize a few citation commands and makes it very easy to snag a quick citation key while writing.  So far I write in org-mode and try to arrange it so I never have to look at the LaTeX file.  But mine is a thesis, and it's not to the final stages yet.  At the moment I still run (xe)latex-bibtex-(xe)latex manually, but that's only because I haven't sat down to customize the org variable to customize the latex command and run bibtex.

Scot

On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote:
Hi Sebastian,

>
>> I am in the same position --- i.e., I use emacs/auctex/org-mode/biblatex
>> in a field in which MS Word is the default option. Many of the things I
>> write have to be converted to doc format at some point.

> could you elaborate on how you use biblatex with org-mode and auctex,
> since auctex doesn't support biblatex?

I'll try to keep this brief, since I don't want to talk too much about
AUCTeX in the org-mode forum.

I've found that AUCTeX and RefTeX work very well with biblatex, since
all biblatex requires is to run latex, then bibtex, then latex again.

I use the Chicago Manual of Style biblatex package:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/biblatex-contrib/biblatex-chicago-notes-df/

To make this work with AUCTeX, I've created a custom reftex-cite-format
for the citation types I use most often:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq reftex-cite-format
'(
(?c . "\\cite[]{%l}")
(?C . "\\cites[]{%l}")
(?t . "\\citetitle[]{%l}")
(?T . "\\citetitles[]{%l}")
(?a . "\\autocite[]{%l}")
(?A . "\\autocites[]{%l}")
(?x . "[]{%l}")
(?X . "{%l}")
))

(setq reftex-cite-prompt-optional-args t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I've also set the following variable to get the appropriate faces:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq font-latex-match-reference-keywords
'(("cites" "[{")
("autocite" "[{")
("autocites" "[{")
("citetitle" "[{")
("citetitles" "[{")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Finally, I've had to hack at a couple of reftex functions to change the
regular expressions that are used to identify citation macros for:

1) jumping to the matching entry in the bib file
(reftex-view-crossref)

2) generating a bib file from a tex file
(reftex-all-used-citation-keys).

- This is necessary because the current regexps don't recognize
the plural citation macros (e.g. \cites, \autocites, etc.).

Unfortunately, these regexps are hardcoded into reftex, so I have to
load the rewritten functions via a reftex-mode-hook. And since Carsten
is no longer the maintainer of RefTeX, it's not quite as easy to get a
customize option for a RefTeX regexp as it is to get one in org-mode. :)

The whole setup is by no means perfect, but it works fine for me.

Now, for the org-mode part of the post. I generally use org-mode for
drafting and AUCTeX for revising/polishing and adding formal citations.

If I plan exporting something quickly from org-mode, I use the following
function for a quick and dirty way to get citation info from my bib
files into my org-mode files. (And, of course, I make heavy use of
org-mode's wonderful footnote features.)

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun my-reftex-citations ()
(interactive)
(let ((reftex-cite-format
'(
(?f . "%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n")
(?F . "<<%l>>\n\n%a. %t. %j, %v, %b. %r: %u, %y. %p.\n")
(?s . "%a, %t, %y\n")
(?c . "\\cite[]{%l}"
(?l . "[[%l]]\n")
(?L . "%a, %t, %y. [[%l]]\n"))))
(reftex-citation)))

(define-key text-mode-map (kbd "C-c y") 'my-reftex-citations)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

If I wanted to export for biblatex directly from org-mode (which I
haven't tried yet), I think I would ignore most of the special
biblatex/Chicago macros and just use the \cite macro inside of footnotes
to make conversion/export to other formats a bit easier.

Hope this helps.

Matt

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