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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Minor gotcha with org-agenda-files

From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: Minor gotcha with org-agenda-files
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:53:43 +0100

On Jan 23, 2011, at 11:06 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

suvayu ali <address@hidden> writes:

Hi Tommy and Eric,

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Eric S Fraga <address@hidden> wrote:
Tommy Kelly <address@hidden> writes:

suvayu ali <address@hidden> writes:

This is nothing org specific. Its how customise works. This is the
reason people are encouraged to _not_ mix customise with setq. I for
example use customise for everything except org settings.

Ah but hang on.

First, is it reasonable to consider it obvious (I mean, it wasn't to me)
that using C-c [ invokes customize?

Second, even if it is reasonable, isn't it the case that customize
offers a temporary change of variables? You have to explicitly ask it to
make the change permanent, no?

It would indeed be friendlier if this were done here as well.

I am not familiar with how to interface ui with customize so I don't
know whether its possible or not, but there are many instances in
emacs where this is done as standard practice. For example marking
certain file local variables as safe, or turning on some special
behaviour when invoked for the first time (e.g. side scrolling).
However I do recall all of these prompts the user whether they want to keep the settings temporary or make it permanent. So I would say its a Request for Feature Enhancement / Bug rather than a mere documentation

Yes, I think this is the key aspect: all other instances of commands in
Emacs modifying the .emacs file, that I am aware of, indicate they are
about to do so although sometimes in a roundabout kind of way
(e.g. "make this change permanent").

So, can we have a feature request for this?  A simple y-or-n-p type
prompt would suffice.

I can follow the arguments here.  However:

The problem I see is that if you do this command a few
times and reply "n", but then, during the same session,
you add another file and say "y", then also the previous,
supposedly "non-permanent" changes will become permanent
because they are in that same variable org-agenda-files.
To cleanly implement adding files only for a session and to
independently add a file to the permanent set would require
more complex changes to the agenda file list stuff.

What I usually do it I want to work temporarily with a
file is restricting to that file with `C-c C-x <'.  Then I
work only with that file, which is usually good enough
until I switch back to my more permanent list.

If we add a query, but I would like to be able to turn
that query off.

- Carsten

Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D)

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