Re: [O] org-icons package

[Dan Davison]

Hi Renzo,

org-icons needs to be moved into contrib/, hooked in via a lightweight patch against org.el, instead of being implemented as a monolithic change to org.el. I made a start on that in this branch:

https://github.com/dandavison/org-devel/tree/org-icons

but I'm not sure that I got very far. Note that that is a branch in a clone of the org repo, as opposed to the org-icons repos which are standalone repos and do not contain org.

I thought org-icons was interesting because it offers the possibility of allowing users to make arbitrary superficial changes to org aesthetics. For example, the #+begin_src...#+end_src boilerplate is rather heavy for some peoples' tastes. At one point I had it replacing that with a little (ruby, snake) for (ruby, python) code... But I think it also allows the possibility of overlaying with text. I'd be happy to give you push access to that repo, but, you may as well just fork it as I have no plans to work on it.

I don't know how to contact Nicolas. I believe that he is on record as saying he did not plan to develop org-icons further.

Good luck,

Dan

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Renzo Been <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Dan, Nicolas and list,

In my previous mail I wrote about using (and upgrading it for use with the
latest version of org-mode) Nicolas Girard's org-icons package, see:
http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?group=gmane.emacs.orgmode&article=44834

I've tried to contact Nicolas Girard (via e-mail and a google search). But I
have not heard back from him as yet.

When I checked the github for org-icons again I discovered that there was a
second branch by Dan Davison.
https://github.com/ngirard/org-icons/tree/dan

Dan,

Do you know how I can get in contact with Nicolas? Or do you have access to
the github for org-icons, so that it's code can be updated to work with the
latest version of org-mode? Did you and Nicolas ever think about including
org-icons into org-mode?

As for me, I'm happily using org-icons with org-mode 7.7, I've attached a new
and updated patch file that works on the latest org.el

Copy the patch "org-icons.patch" to the directory where you keep your "org.el"
cd to that directory
And then apply the patch like this:
patch -b org.el org-icons.patch

Of-course, if neither of you has the time to work on org-icons... I could make
a fork of the git repo, and make the changes myself. However, I do not have
much elisp knowledge...

Ciao,
Renzo

On 25 July 2011 12:12, Renzo Been <address@hidden> wrote:
> Bastien <bzg <at> altern.org> writes:

>> Hi Philipp,

>> Philipp Haselwarter <philipp.haselwarter <at> gmx.de> writes:

>> > Is there any particular reason for it to be hardcoded? Apart from the
>> > fact that /well it just is this way right now/ I mean.

>> Nothing carved in stone, but here are the two reasons I see:

>> - we don't want users to use arbitrary regexp to match headlines as they
>>   are very likely to shoot themselves in the foot (Harven's example of
>>   using "-" instead of "*" is a good example of that.)

>> - Given this, I am not able to imagine a good way of limiting the number
>>   of allowed characters.

>> > That'd be useful information for anyone interested in changing it.

>> I'd interested in any solution to the problems above.

>> > Then
>> > you can still just tell them to write a patch if they care that much
>> > ('cause even in org-mode-land patches don't write themselves just yet)

>> :)

>> > [I just had the most awesome idea for a feature request].

>> Please share!

>> > If it's "just" about inheriting from a variable in some 300 places it
>> > could at least be discussed.

>> Yep -- if you have the energy to go through the code and see where it is
>> hardcoded while it should not, please do.

>> Thanks,

> Hi,

> I was just thinking... If you want to change the "look" of the
> org-headlines. Does one really need to change the code?

> I have been using Nicolas Girard's org-icons package for quite a while. And
> that makes org-buffers look pretty nice. You can even customise the icons, to
> make it look the way you want.

> However, some things about the org-icons package... It seems to be a little
> outdated.  Are there many org-moders out there still using it?  Were there
> ever any plans to include it in the org-distribution? Right now it needs to be
> installed by hand, because the patch to org.el is outdated...  Also, I need to
> load it two times in my .emacs before the icons work...

> Ciao,
> Renzo

> The org-icons can be found here:
> Download from Nicolas Girard's github
> http://github.com/ngirard/org-icons
> On the Worg site I could only find screenshots, no other information...
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-screenshots.html
> The list-message announcement for org-icons
> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c87zl2962um.fsf%40stats.ox.ac.uk%3e
> And some list-messages discussing including the org-icons-patch into org-mode
> http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c87zlbx3kvf.fsf%40kassiopeya.MSHEIMNETZ%3e