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Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?
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aaronecay |
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Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git? |
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Fri, 08 Mar 2013 14:32:35 -0500 |
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Hi Rasmus,
2013ko martxoak 7an, Rasmus Pank Roulund-ek idatzi zuen:
>
> In my book it would seem 'natural' to strive towards the following:
>
> 1. It should be Bibtex-based. I.e. Bibtex should be the 'database'
> or storage for citation information. It may be stored in
> Org-Bibtex-whatever, but Bibtex should be the natural base.
> 2. Citation selection should be possible via Reftex.
In principle this is true, but I think RefTeX is deeply intertwined with
the assumption that it is running in a LaTeX buffer. Going through its
code and making it major-mode-agnostic is a worthy project all of its
own. But it might take less effort and be more long-run maintainable to
just wire up the bibtex.el bundled with emacs, CompletionUI
(http://www.emacswiki.org/CompletionUI) and YAsnippet
(http://emacswiki.org/emacs/Yasnippet).
> 3. It should look nice in the buffer. For instance, with the
> current link hacks I am shown the pre or post notes in place of
> the citation. Ideally, it should be able to specify a
> reftex-cite-format string on how to display stuff in the buffer.
> Notes should be viewable in an non-disturbing way.
> Ideally, I would want to see something like:
> (POSTFIX, Jensen, 1906, SUFFIX)
> or
> Jensen (POSTFIX, 1906, SUFFIX)
> (If my memory serves me correctly this is how BibLatex places
> notes).
One could do this with font-lock and the new citation syntax I proposed
in my other email. We would need two alists. One would pair citation
lookup types with functions to resolve them to a location, and to get
their properties. The other would pair display types with two
functions: one to return a format string that would be displayed by
font-lock instead of the citation markup, and one to return the code to
export the citation.
So, a citation like [cite:doi:parens:some-doi:key=val&key2=val2] would be
displayed by:
1. call (org-lookup-cite-doi "some-doi") -> (:author "Foo" :title "bar" ...)
2. call (org-display-cite-parens '(:author "Foo" :title "bar" ...)) ->
"(Foo 2000)"
3. (font-lock puts an overlay over the citation markup, with the
returned string)
If you click on the citation, org would open the location (URL or local
file) returned by (org-resolve-cite-doi "some-doi")
A citation could exported by calling (org-export-cite-parens 'doi
"some-doi" (:author "foo" :title "bar") current-backend). This function
could just return \parencite{foo} if exporting to latex and the citation
was already in a bibtex file. But it could also just return “Foo 2000”
as a static string for dumb backends like ASCII, or write the
information to a temporary bibtex file (so that latex can atomatically
use the bibliographic info looked up from a DOI citation).
In any event, this is a big, complicated project. Step zero for me (and
many people, I guess) is to get a slightly less hackish way to export
Bibtex-based citations to latex, and the other pieces can be built on
top of that.
--
Aaron Ecay
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, (continued)
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Nicolas Goaziou, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Bastien, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Achim Gratz, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Bastien, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Achim Gratz, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Rasmus Pank Roulund, 2013/03/08
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Rasmus, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Thomas S. Dye, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Rasmus, 2013/03/08
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Thomas S. Dye, 2013/03/08
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?,
aaronecay <=
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Rasmus, 2013/03/08
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, aaronecay, 2013/03/08
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Bastien, 2013/03/09
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Aaron Ecay, 2013/03/19
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Nicolas Goaziou, 2013/03/09
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Jambunathan K, 2013/03/09
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Jambunathan K, 2013/03/09
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Thomas S. Dye, 2013/03/09
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Jambunathan K, 2013/03/07
- Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?, Andreas Leha, 2013/03/11