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Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords
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Rasmus |
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Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords |
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Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:11:57 +0100 |
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Hi,
Nicolas Goaziou <address@hidden> writes:
>> I—obviously—think what I propose is better than what we have now. Let's
>> go through the current functionality.
>
> In this case I value simplicity over complexity (or "smartness",
> whatever you call it). Anyone, including newcomers, should be able to
> use M-RET without knowing about (affiliated) keywords, or be bothered
> with them.
"Newcomers" ain't stupid. My guess is it would feel very intuitive to
be able to repeat e.g. LATEX_HEADINGs.
> Also, headlines are first-class citizens in Org. Keybindings acting on
> them shouldn't be bothered with other citizens.
But "* #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{foo}" or whatever is possibly the
most useless headline in the history of Org. . .
>> I don't find it complicated at all. . . It's DWIM!
>
> I understand your DWIM argument. But we're talking about one of the most
> central keybindings in Org, much like C-c C-c. Except I do not consider
> C-c C-c as a usability model. Also, C-c C-c is not really dedicated to
> headlines.
I guess I mainly use C-c C-c for tags. I don't know what else it's used
for (without looking at the code). . .
>> The fact that `org-table-wrap-region' is bound to M-RET is the reason
>> I'd bind `org-insert-keyword' to M-RET. . .
>
> I really don't understand the reason behind binding
> `org-table-wrap-region'
> (how often do you use that?) on M-RET.
Very rarely. I obviously use M-RET all the time for items and
headlines. `org-table-wrap-region' seems like a solution looking for a
problem.
>> Anyway, do we have /another/ key that these two functions could be
>> migrated to?
>
> There is `org-table-copy-down' bound to S-RET. The idea is similar.
That seems less crowded. In fact it doesn't work outside of tables ATM.
Still, I think overload M-RET is more intuitive, but I fear our opinions
will fail to converge.
—Rasmus
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- [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, (continued)
- [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus, 2014/11/21
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/22
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus Pank Roulund, 2014/11/22
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus, 2014/11/22
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Thierry Banel, 2014/11/22
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/22
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Thierry Banel, 2014/11/23
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/23
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus, 2014/11/23
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/23
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- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus, 2014/11/23
- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/25
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- Re: [O] M-RET vs C-RET, Nicolas Goaziou, 2014/11/26
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- Re: [O] [patch] extend org-meta-return to keywords, Rasmus, 2014/11/23