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Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal
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Richard Lawrence |
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Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal |
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Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:50:49 -0800 |
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Nicolas Goaziou <address@hidden> writes:
> Richard Lawrence <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> That would be wonderful! Will you publish a patch or, better, a branch
>> somewhere, even if it's not ready for master?
>
> I created a new branch: "wip-cite". It introduces support for @key
> address@hidden [cite:pre @key post] and [(cite):pre @key post] constructs.
Great! I'll take a look.
What's the next step here? Adding support for multiple references?
multi-cites? `&'-keys?
> As a reminder, I prefer subkeys over plists because they have a smaller
> footprint in the document. Also, as already explained, having many
> subkeys is not a problem with proper tooling (e.g., some completion with
> descriptions). Note that this is closer to "org-ref" requirements,
> probably making easier to port some features into core.
>
> However, opinion from advanced citation users on this ML has more weight
> that mine. Instead of trying to figure out hypothetical crazy uses for
> citations (e.g., using 50 different citation commands), I'd rather hear
> from people with real citation requirements who are willing to use this
> machinery.
Yes, me too.
> At this point, we probably need to implement a BIBLIOGRAPHY keyword
> (files) and BIBLIOGRAPHY_BACKEND (bibtex, zotero, jabref...) and provide
> basic tools to handle citations in an Org document.
Could we guess the backend from the file extension on the BIBLIOGRAPHY,
to keep things simple here? I don't use a citation manager, so I don't
know if this is possible for anything other than Bib(La)TeX.
Also, as mentioned earlier, it would be really nice to support
org-bibtex as one of the reference database formats. (It's what I use,
so naturally it's what I think we should bless. :) This would allow
storing your reference database in-document.
Some things to think about:
1) Is there ever a need to mix reference database formats in the same
document (e.g., zotero and org-bibtex)? (I would think not, but my
needs are simple.)
2) Is there ever a need to mix multiple reference databases in the
*same* format (e.g., two different .bib files)? (I would think so,
given the existence in BibLaTeX of \addbibresource.)
3) If the answer to either 1 or 2 is yes, how should we decide
precedence between multiple reference databases? (Two databases might
contain the same key.)
Best,
Richard
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, (continued)
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Aaron Ecay, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Richard Lawrence, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Avram Lyon, 2015/03/03
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Richard Lawrence, 2015/03/03
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Avram Lyon, 2015/03/03
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Richard Lawrence, 2015/03/04
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/03
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/03
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Aaron Ecay, 2015/03/03
Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal,
Richard Lawrence <=
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Nicolas Goaziou, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Nicolas Goaziou, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Nicolas Goaziou, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Nicolas Goaziou, 2015/03/02
- Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Rasmus, 2015/03/02
Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Richard Lawrence, 2015/03/02
Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal, Nicolas Goaziou, 2015/03/03