Re: [O] Moving from org-mode 6.33/7.9.3 to 8.3.2

[John Hendy]

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, John Hendy <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Steve Moreau <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Moving from old org-mode versions (6.33 or 7.9.3f-17-g7524ef) to the latest
>> stable one currently (8.3.2), I noticed two changes which made me out of my
>> comfort zone.
>>
>> Demoting/promoting a header now changes the indentation of text below.
>> I reverted to the previous mode with '(setf org-adapt-indentation nil)' in
>> ~/.emacs, and that's fine but I mentioned it in case it has an impact on
>> point#2.
>>
>> 'M-x fill-region' does not fill custom lists as before. In the previous
>> version, I could select and fill several mixed paragraphs/lists directly.
>> For example, filling the following block (without --- separator added as a
>> delimiter in this message)
>> ---------------
>> # a very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong comment
>>
>> a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong sentence that
>> should be filled over 2 lines
>>
>> - a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong item that should be filled over 2
>> lines
>>
>>   - a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong item that should be filled over
>> 2 lines
>>
>> a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong sentence that
>> should be filled over 2 lines
>
> [snip]
>
>> Lists are not filled anymore and I have to select each list entry and fill
>> it individually to get the same output.
>>
>> So my questions are:
>>
>> Is there any simple way to revert to the previous mode with a variable?
>> Else, could you explain briefly where I should look if I want to understand
>> why the filling is skipped in this case, and eventually change it if I
>> cannot change my mind and adapt to this different behavior? I had a look at
>> function (org.el:23249 org-setup-filling) but I am not sure this is the
>> right location.
>
> I don't really have an answer regarding *why*, but I have this in my
> .emacs that seems to work with either spaces at the end of your
> example above (fills the current line) or with M-x fill-region. Want
> to try that? Maybe the new org requires manually setting fill options?
>
> #+begin_src .emacs
>
> ;; change 80 to whatever you prefer
> (setq-default fill-column 80)
> (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
>
> #+end_src

I take that back. It didn't work on the unordered list after all.
Googling around, turns out someone asked about this sort of thing
before (me!):
- http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/76593

In following the thread, it does't seem like there was a
fill-paragraph equivalent that worked on lists. Perhaps someone else
can chime in here on why Org doesn't fill on lists. I get no filling
when running =M-x fill-paragraph= on your example, and it turns it
into a paragraph (ignoring the current "-" bullet structure) using
=M-x fill-region-as-paragraph=.


John

>
>
> Hope that helps!
> John
>
>>
>> Thanks, and have a nice day.