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Re: [O] evil-mode and org

From: John Kitchin
Subject: Re: [O] evil-mode and org
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 11:12:22 -0400
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Using evil-mode is not "using vim" IMHO. I think this is a question of
do you want modal editing or not (I suppose it could also be do you want
emacs-lisp or vimscript, but that is not the impression I get these days
;). With emacs you can have either traditional emacs editing (one-mode:
edit) or modal editing like vim (for the most part). And you can still
use emacs-lisp to customize the environment so you can have things like

I have seen a growing movement towards modal editing in emacs, e.g.
evil-mode, spacemacs, hydra, avy/ivy, etc... and even do some things
modally myself with those tools.

Peter Neilson writes:

> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:57:40 -0400, Matt Price <address@hidden> wrote:
>> I've never used Vim but I see a lot of people online raving about evil
>> mode
>> and how much they love it. I'm considering giving it a whirl after the
>> semester ends & I get some free time. I just wondered whether any heavy
>> org
>> users here on the list use evil, and if so, whether you see pain points
>> within org-mode -- my setup is pretty heavily customized, for instance,
>> and
>> I wonder whether that means it will be quite painful to use evil.
> You will also find people asking why anyone would ever think of using vim.
> One of those is Aaron Bieber.
> https://blog.aaronbieber.com/2016/01/30/dig-into-org-mode.html
> I use vim only when unavoidable, and I simply pretend it is ed (of ancient
> Unix days). Or maybe I just use ed. I would not bother trying to use ed to
> access org, and thus would not be tempted to use vi, vim or evil mode for
> org, either. One fine day, long, long ago, I had to use a Vax that did not
> have emacs, vim, vi or ed. It did have whatever DEC was using for an
> editor, but I didn't know how to use it instantly. What to do? What to do?
> I tried running TECO. Yes, it had TECO! Saved! (Sort of.)
> Why use vim if emacs is already built into your fingertips?

Professor John Kitchin
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