Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

[Joost Kremers]

On Sat, Apr 18 2020, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> The question, then: Is that what you're saying; we don't need 
> suppress-author?
>
> I think I actually agree, though will add a topic that came up 
> in the
> CSL implementation discussion for the author-in-text styles in 
> the
> past few days.
>
> Here's a common way a citation might be integrated in a 
> narrative text:
>
> Doe, by contrast, found negative results (2017).

There are other constructions in with suppress-author is useful. 
For example, possessives:

Doe's (2017) results... 

or 

Doe's (2017) ground braking paper...

Such use is not uncommon in my field.

Also, consider languages that require a case ending on the author 
name. And who knows what quirks other languages may have?

> So we have the author name in-text, than some text, then the 
> year-only citation.
>
> The traditional way to do that in pandoc is to use the 
> suppress-author
> command at the end.
>
> Doe, by contrast, found negative results [-@doe17].
>
> So the piece of information I refer to above is that one of the 
> CSL
> implementers (Frank Bennett) figured out  how to make the above
> example an author-in-text variant, so that you don't need
> suppress-author, and the entire sentence is the citation.
>
> He did this by adding an optional "infix" variable to the 
> citation.

I doubt that would work in every case. Consider e.g.,
;
In her original (2017) study, Doe argues that... 

[...]
> This is arguably an edge case, but it does relate to the 
> question of
> whether we need two (standard and author-in-text) or three 
> commands
> (adding the suppress-author).

I would definitely say that a way to suppress the author is 
necessary. In fact, I would argue that there should also be a way 
to cite just the author name, if only to make sure it's not 
misspelled or written inconsistently. (I'm a regular user of 
\citeauthor in BibLaTeX... ;-) But I admit that's less of a 
necessity.


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Joost Kremers
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