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Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations

From: Nicolas Goaziou
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 00:04:08 +0200
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"Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:

>> - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being
>>   global, i.e., not locale-specific.
> One of the things I've wondered about, but cannot offer any expertise
> on (really, I have no clue), is how this might work for languages like
> Arabic or Mandarin.

Of course, different punctuation marks exist, so characters are at least
locale-dependant. But I don't know if the set is entirely determined by
the locale or if it also depends on the "style" of the document.

>> - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because
>>   I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As
>>   a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor.
>>   OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g.,
>>   csquotes.
> So the upshot is if users want this functionality for LaTeX/PDF, they
> should use oc-biblatex for that export target?

Actually, that's the opposite. I don't know if it is possible, or even
appropriate, to port that feature to `biblatex' and `natbib' processors.
So, ATM, if you want it, and target LaTeX/PDF, your only option is

>> - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not
>>   sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only
>>   applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code.
> Here's the scenario I believe Denis was concerned about:
> #+begin_quote
> ... block with citation at end. [cite:@doe]
> #+end_quote
> I think in standard author-year styles, we'd want:
> ... block with citation at end. (Doe, 2020)
> ... while in note-based and "US" (space removed):
> ... block with citation at end.[1]
> Not sure if that has any practical import, but just to clarify.

I understand this, but, AFAICT, this is the output we get already. So
I don't think there is anything to do.

Thank you for the feedback.

Nicolas Goaziou

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