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Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations

From: Bruce D'Arcus
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:47:51 -0700

I'll let you two sort it out; I don't have a position.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 3:23 PM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:

Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> hat am 14.06.2021 00:04 geschrieben:

Nicolas explained the reverse is out of scope,
IIRC, it was out of scope ATM.
and gave a reasonable explanation why (because much harder to reconstruct missing information IIRC).
That's where I disagree. I think the opposite is true.

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 2:54 PM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:
Am 12.06.2021 um 11:39 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou:
> Hello,
> Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> writes:
>> Yes, good this is coming.
> As a step forward, I rebased wip-cite-new branch with more support for
> note numbers handling.
> I added three customizable variables:
> - org-cite-adjust-note-numbers, which simply allows the user to toggle
>    punctuation and note number moving (on by default).
> - org-cite-note-rules, which defines what rules to apply according to
>    locale, expressed as a language tag, as in RFC 4646.
> - org-cite-punctuation-marks, which lists strings recognized as
>    punctuation in the process.
> `csl' and `basic' processors now both make use of this.
> I'd appreciate some feedback, in particular about the docstrings of the
> variables above. I focused on the "note numbers" topic instead of
> "punctuation" since I found the latter too generic.
> Also, there are some points that may need to be discussed:
> - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being
>    global, i.e., not locale-specific.
> - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because
>    I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As
>    a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor.
>    OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g.,
>    csquotes.
> - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not
>    sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only
>    applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code.

Ok, I've managed to test this a bit, and I think this looks pretty good
so far.

The only question I'd still have is if this could somehow also cover the
reverse situation (going from a note style to author-date). I've noticed
that simply adding a new language rule doesn't work anymore---as opposed
to my initial tests with earlier iterations of that mechanism. Seems
like this mechanism is now only triggered when using a note based style.


> Regards,

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