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Re: Expanding how the new cite syntax is used to include cross-reference

From: Eric S Fraga
Subject: Re: Expanding how the new cite syntax is used to include cross-references - thoughts?
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:22:04 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Hello John & co.,

I need to chime in when it comes to the UI:

On Thursday, 12 Aug 2021 at 13:19, John Kitchin wrote:
> I would say the UI that I like, have used for many years, and is the
> default of org-ref is:
> 1. You type C-c ] to insert a citation
> 2. You type C-u C-c ] to insert a cross-reference
> 3. you type C-u C-u C-c ] to insert a new label.

UI is a very personal thing.  So long as there are 3 different functions
that implement these actions, I would be happy.  Despite using Emacs for
approximately 35 years, I use evil mode to avoid making my RSI worse
(RSI due originally to mouse use in the 80s, not Emacs ;-)).  In that
context, typing C-u is not ideal.  (C-c is worse, mind you.)  I have a
"," leader key to which I add org specific commands when in org mode.

Just my 2ยข.

In terms of the bigger picture, citations and cross-references, to me,
are different things (one is external and the other usually internal,
respectively) and I see no benefit in conflating them.  I am also still
not convinced that org links are not sufficient but I don't mind if
there is a new syntax for cross-references, if this is deemed
beneficial.  However, these feelings (as opposed to the UI issue) are
not strong and will easily adapt to whatever is decided.

: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-625-ge7454c
: Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096

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