Re: new org mode, changed folding behavior could be improved / more consistent

[Laurenz Wiskott]

PS: I use org-mode version 9.4

On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 09:08:16PM +0100, Laurenz Wiskott wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> org mode has apparently been rewritten somehow.  At least I noticed a few 
> differences
> after updating to the new Debian version.  For instance, it got much faster.  
> GREAT!
> 
> There is one feature however that I really miss: It used to be that I could 
> add an entry
> with a certain number of stars in the first line, and then 'org-global-cycle' 
> using S-TAB
> would allow to make all the headlines visible only up to that many stars.  
> For instance,
> a file with
> 
> 
> *** -
> * 1
>   Text 1
> ** 2
>    Text 2
> *** 3
>     Text 3
> **** 4
>      Text 4
> 
> after one or two S-TAB (depending on the initial folding state) would look 
> like
> 
> *** -
> * 1
> ** 2
> *** 3
> 
> without the 4-star headline visible.  If I remove one star in the first line 
> and type
> S-TAB once or twice, then it looks like
> 
> ** -
> * 1
> ** 2
> 
> I found that a convenient way of controlling the depth of the CONTENT view (I 
> believe it
> is called).  That does not work any more.  Typing S-TAB once or twice leads 
> to the
> CONTENTS view that shows all headlines, no matter how many stars and 
> independently of the
> first line.
> 
> I have read that I can get the desired behavior with a numerical argument.  
> So, I have a
> work around.  GREAT!
> 
> However, I find it inconsistent, that 'org-global-cycle' and 'org-cycle' work
> differently.  The latter shows the old behavior (GREAT!), but can apparently 
> not be
> controlled directly with a numerical argument, while for the former it is the 
> other way
> around.
> 
> I suggest, to enable the trick with the first line for both 
> 'org-global-cycle' and
> 'org-cycle' and to also enable overwriting this with a numerical argument.
> 
> Here is an example for 'org-cycle'
> 
> * 1
> *** -
> ** A
> *** Aa
>     Text
> ** B
> *** Ba
> **** Ba1
>      Text
> 
> Typing TAB once or twice (depending on the initial folding state) on the main 
> headline (*
> 1) yields the view:
> 
> * 1
> *** -
> ** A
> *** Aa
> ** B
> *** Ba
> 
> If I remove one star in the second line (*** -), typing TAB yields
> 
> * 1
> ** -
> ** A
> ** B
> 
> So, that still works.  But a numerical argument has no effect.  However, I 
> found that C-c
> TAB (org-show-children) does this, but why not just numerical argument plus 
> TAB, like for
> S-TAB?
> 
> Anyhow, I am extremely grateful for the org-mode and I use it daily.  Thanks 
> a lot.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Laurenz Wiskott.