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Re: tutorial: "The key <ESC> has been rebound, but you can use instead"


From: Reiner Steib
Subject: Re: tutorial: "The key <ESC> has been rebound, but you can use instead"
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:07:06 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux)

On Wed, Nov 22 2006, Richard Stallman wrote:

>     | ** The key <ESC> has been rebound, but you can use  instead [More 
> information] **
>     `----
>
>     I fail to understand what "but you can use  instead" means.
>
> Is that because the value is nil?  I think that case needs to be
> handled specially.  It can say just "The key <ESC> has been rebound,
> so you can't use it this way."

There must be a bug: I also get "you can use  instead" when I do
(global-set-key (kbd "C-g") 'goto-line) after emacs -Q.

>     Additionally, as the warning line is longer than 80 characters it's
>     quite disturbing.
>
> Let's change `information' to `info'.

Better, but even with "[More info]" or "[More]", the lines may get too
long.

I think summarizing the problematic keys _at the very beginning_ of
the tutorial or in a splash screen at it's startup would be much
better than interrupting the tutorial text several times in the middle
of a sentence.

Suggestion: Let's keep the colors on the changed keys within the text,
but don't print the warning lines ("** ... **").  When the user clicks
on the colored keys, display the corresponding help buffer like we do
for on "[More information]" now.

>     BTW, if you do the same with a German language environment, the German
>     tutorial is interrupted by lines in English.  Also the "NOTICE" is in
>     English.
>
> You can add German versions in tutorial.el.

I'll do so, but I think the current English version needs improvement
first.

> I think English is better than nothing.

I'm not sure.  Please try: Enable CUA mode and try to read the French
or the Spanish tutorial.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>  Tapez C-v (Voir l'écran suivant) pour passer à l'écran suivant
** The key C-v has been rebound, but you can use <next> instead [More 
information] **
    (faites-le, pressez la touche CTRL tout en pressant la touche v).
    À partir de maintenant, vous devrez le faire à chaque fois que
    vous avez fini de lire l'écran.

Vous remarquerez qu'il y a un recouvrement de deux lignes lorsque l'on
passe d'un écran à un autre : cela permet une certaine continuité dans
la lecture du texte.

La première chose que vous devez savoir est comment vous déplacer à
travers le texte. Vous savez déjà comment avancer d'un écran avec
C-v. Pour revenir un écran en arrière, tapez M-v (pressez la touche
** The key M-v has been rebound, but you can use <prior> instead [More 
information] **
META tout en appuyant sur v ou faites <ESC>v si vous n'avez pas de
touche META, EDIT ou ALT).

>>  Faites M-v, puis C-v plusieurs fois.
** The key C-v has been rebound, but you can use <next> instead [More 
information] **

Si votre terminal en dispose, vous pouvez également utiliser les
touches PgUp et PgDn pour monter ou descendre d'un écran, bien que les
combinaisons C-v et M-v soient plus efficaces.
** The key M-v has been rebound, but you can use <prior> instead [More 
information] **
** The key C-v has been rebound, but you can use <next> instead [More 
information] **

* RÉSUMÉ
--------

Les commandes suivantes servent à manipuler des écrans :

        C-v     Avance d'un écran
** The key C-v has been rebound, but you can use <next> instead [More 
information] **
        M-v     Recule d'un écran
** The key M-v has been rebound, but you can use <prior> instead [More 
information] **
        C-l     Efface l'écran et réaffiche tout le texte autour du
                curseur, qui est placé au milieu de l'écran
                (il s'agit de CTRL-L, pas de CTRL-1).
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Bye, Reiner.
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