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Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10


From: Joel Reicher
Subject: Re: [emacs-tangents] 10 problems with Elisp, part 10
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:27:28 +1100
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Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> writes:

No, I think the frustration, IIRC, ws because

(1) No one else was enthusiastic about making Elisp better, in part for its own sake, to make och try to make Emacs a Lisp powerhouse up there with CL and Clojure (and others); and

To my mind that's a bit like saying make a mouse trap better by making it more like a bear trap.

By all means make elisp better, but don't compare it to languages that are used for different things.

(2) even more so, I was frustrated with that boasting, functional programming is superior (absolutely not true), Lisp is built-in superior to other languages, Lisps syntax is an advantage, Lisp programs are short and elegant (yes, sometimes, before they get too long, e.g. gnus-sum.el [13 239 lines], Lisp programmers have a better mental understanding of their programs compared to other programmers and their sorry languages.

Different languages are good for different things. Saying one language is better than another only makes sense if they are being used for the same thing, and only in the context of that thing.

I like Lisp, but I wouldn't use it for everything.

Regards,

       - Joel



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