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[Fwd: Re: [emms-help] Hello emms list!]

From: Joakim Verona
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [emms-help] Hello emms list!]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:24:02 +0100
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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: [emms-help] Hello emms list! Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:54:02 +0100 User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030903 Thunderbird/0.2
Mario Domgörgen wrote:

Joakim Verona <address@hidden> writes:

I've come so far as to have emms-playlist-tree function to work, and
display the playlist.
I can't export the playlist into a file yet.

emms-pbi-export-playlist should do that?!
In my case it just barfs, but I'm not shure why yet.

- open and manipulate a rather large playlist, with aprox 22000 files.
Since it is large, I want to pre-generate it with a shellscript.

Well, because its large. It takes emms a non-acceptable amount of time to recurse all my 22000 audio files
and build the list.

it takes xmms too long time also, so I build the list for xmms during nights with a cron job.

I just want to be able to do the same for emms. I tried loading my xmms list with emms, but emms aparently has it's own format. Nothing wrong with that, since xmms(and winamps) m3u filelist format is sucky.

It would also be nice to pre-generate most of the meta info directly
in the playlist, so I wont have
to generate it on the fly all the time(and also have more meta than
id3v1 allows, like BPM info)

We had that but we weren't sure how to implement that in a usefull way,
so that changes in meta data occur to the songs ...
Ok. Im still thinkling about this.

- make player interfaces to for example mixxx, gdam,
 beep-media-player, or xmms.

We wrote emms to be independent of xmms (or better: i work on it
therefor... :), but it shouldn't be hard to implement that ... but why
would that be usefull?
Emms seems to be able to support various mp3 players, and thats nice.
The player interface is not very interactive as far as I can determine though.

What I mean is that I want to be able to jump about in the selected file easily, which you
can do with graphical players in various interesting ways.

However, nearly all graphical players have sucky playlist and song selection techniques.
Here is where I believe emms is superiour.

-Ideally I could do hard editing of file names and info while playing,
for instance using a recursive dired buffer
and "wdired" (wdired allows you to change file names directly in the
dired buffer)

Yeah, editing info in playlist buffer would be nice, but it seems that
it would involve a lot of work ... we are happy about patches! :)
Ok... I'm currently learning the wdired sources, and making some patches for it,
and maybe some ideas from wdired can be adapted to emms pbi.

The idea is to use the power of emacs to select songs, with for
instance ido-mode and multiple buffers,
and play them with an external mixer capable of softmixing.

Can you open more than one file in ido-mode? And i don't understand the
buffer and softmixing thing...
Have you tried ido-mode? Its a great way to choose files and buffers.
My thought was that you could add files to a emms list with ido mode, and it would be very convenient.

The "buffer" thing was simply to have several playlists open at once in different buffers, and select a song to play from whichever buffer. But I suspect emms already allows this.

About softmixing, gdam, for instance, allows you to mix between 2 tracks at once, which is fun. mixxx has this capability too, and xmms can be set up for it also using multiple instances.

Also I discovered some very minor bugs so far, how should I contribute

If you want to contribute somehting you can just send it to the list,
but if you want to i'm sure someone can give you cvs access. Best thing
is to join #emacs on irc.freenode.net as all emms developer discuss emms
there... :) Although development wan't quite fast the last time...
I recently joined #emacs, my handle is "jave".
I will send my so far trivial patches to the list.


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