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Re: [Getfem-users] RT0 and Nedelec vs. Whitney 1 and 2-forms


From: Ronan Perrussel
Subject: Re: [Getfem-users] RT0 and Nedelec vs. Whitney 1 and 2-forms
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:23:02 +0200
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Hi Torquil,

I have an element which is not an answer to your issue but it can help.
I never used the RT0 elements but I used the Nedelec elements and the shape function associated to edge {ij} is :
1/length({ij})*(lambda_i grad lambda_j - lambda_j grad lambda_i).

Maybe something similar is done for RT0 elements (for instance a dof associated to a face is not the flux through this face but the mean value of the normal component of the vector field on this face).

Best regards,
Ronan

Le 23/09/2010 20:01, Torquil Macdonald Sørensen a écrit :
Hi!

I'm having trouble with calculation of mass matrix elements on a 3d tetrahedron
mesh. I have two different cases. In the first case I want to use Whitney 1-form
edge elements, and in the second case Whitney 2-form face elements. I'm given to
understand that these are the same as the NEDELEC and RT0 elements offered by
GetFEM.

The Whitney elements are defined as follows: For a point i, lambda_i is the
usual affine function that is equal to 1 at i, and equal to zero at neighbouring
points.

For an edge {ij} going from point i to point j, the Whitney 1-form element is

lambda_ij := lambda_i grad lambda_j  - lambda_j grad lambda_i

The "2-form" element for a face {ijk} is

lambda_{ijk} := 0.5*(lambda_i (grad lambda_j) x (grad lambda_k) + cyclic
permutations of {ijk}).

When varying the "fineness"/lattice spacing of the mesh for a given physical
domain [0,1]^3, these definitions lead to the following behaviour of the mass
matrix components:

m_ff' ~ 1/h

m_ee' ~ h

where m_ff' is a component of the mass matrix for the 2-form elements, m_ee' is
the same for the 1-form elements, and h is the lattice spacing.

However, in my case, the components m_ff' decreases when h decreases. Does this
indicate a difference between the definition of the RT0 element relative to the
Whitney 2-form element? If so, is it possible to get one from the other by a
simple multiplication by h?

Thanks
Torquil


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