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Re: [gNewSense-users] Grsecurity on gNewSense, but for real?

From: Karl Goetz
Subject: Re: [gNewSense-users] Grsecurity on gNewSense, but for real?
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:11:07 +1000

On Sat Aug 31 19:20:38 2013 address@hidden wrote:
> On 08/30/2013 at 11:00 PM, "Karl Goetz" <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> > address@hidden wrote:

> > > Grsec/Pax are fully GNU, fully free, but to cut to the point, 
> > current
> > > Debian leaders have no ear at all for this twin program solution
> > > (Grsecurity is often used to mean the combination of the two.
> > 
> > The grsec kernel patch (as packaged in Debian) is available in 
> > gNewSense repositories:
> >
> > three/gnewsense/pool/main/l/linux-patch-grsecurity2/
> > 
> That is an old out-of-reality misery apparently purposefully left there
> for users' confusion. Yes, really yes: for users' confusion.
> That is just one of the obstacles that, upon sincere insight,
> can not be honest, unintentional errors. 
> Here's what I posted months ago about such effective misleading of
> newbies:
> ("grsecurity install made difficult and misleading, why?")

You seem convinced there is a conspiracy of malice being created to make grsec 
impossible to use and i really don't think i will be able to convince you 
>From reading the thread its obvious you don't have the technical skills with 
>packaging to be building custom kernels (and were cutting corners or avoiding 
>reading all required docs) which undermine your conspiracy claims further.

> > As a side note, referring to 'current Debian leaders' makes it 
> > sound like a recent conspiracy - the current arrangement is 
> > neither recent nor (from what i can see) a conspiracy.
> Lots of references, much of them often swiftly swept
> under the carpet, that bias is there, aplenty, in the GNU/Linux world.
> And to say bias is quite often understatement.

(I cut the debian multimedia bit)

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