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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch
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Tom Lord |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch |
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Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:26:07 -0700 (PDT) |
> From: Ethan Benson <address@hidden>
> it would seem emacs is broken in the way it edits files anyway, if you
> turn off backup files it works fine, if you don't things like ACLs and
> xattr are destroyed.
For the kinds of uses of xattrs under consideration, there is no
correct behavior that emacs might implement.
I suppose that what we "need", on top of xattrs, if they're to be used
in these ways by applications -- is _more_ xattrs and standards
surrounding them. For example, a standard attribute to say what
xattrs emacs should delete if it turns an inode into a backup file and
which it should copy if it makes a replacement for the original file.
I'm not sure what `mv' and `cp' should do. Minimally, of course, you
just let the user say which attributes to treat which ways -- but that
seems unweildy once we have 10 applications, each of which might be
defining xattrs. So, maybe we need a taxonomy of intentions --
official reasons for running `mv' and `cp' -- and xattrs that map each
possible reason onto a rule for which attributes are copied, deleted,
modified, etc.
But you know, those rule-attributes trying to describe how to manage
attributes -- they'll all be duplicated across many files. That's
inefficient. And good heavens help me if I want to change a rule
globally. Maybe we need a system-wide registry for attribute groups
and user-action intension groups.
When in doubt, add an additional associative table -- that always
solves everything.
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Ethan Benson, 2003/09/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Harald Meland, 2003/09/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Ethan Benson, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Harald Meland, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Ethan Benson, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Harald Meland, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Ethan Benson, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Miles Bader, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Ethan Benson, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch,
Tom Lord <=
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Mark A. Flacy, 2003/09/27
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Miles Bader, 2003/09/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Zack Brown, 2003/09/27
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Miles Bader, 2003/09/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/09/29
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Miles Bader, 2003/09/29
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Florian Weimer, 2003/09/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Tom Lord, 2003/09/28
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Miles Bader, 2003/09/29
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: give us a hand with arch, Tom Lord, 2003/09/29